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		<title>If You&#8217;re Planning to Sue China, Make Sure Your Antivirus Software is Up to Date</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Susan Simpson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The big story a couple weeks back was Google&#8217;s threats about pulling out of China and the allegations of Chinese cyberattacks against Google and other U.S. corporations. Amidst all that, I missed the story about a series of cyberattacks carried out by China against a U.S. law firm that was representing the plaintiffs in a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=viewfromll2.com&amp;blog=9550428&amp;post=1169&amp;subd=viewfromll2&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big story a couple weeks back was Google&#8217;s threats about pulling out of China and the allegations of Chinese cyberattacks against Google and other U.S. corporations. Amidst all that, I missed the story about a series of cyberattacks carried out by China against <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Gipson-Hoffman-Pancione-Comes-bw-1192518024.html?x=0">a U.S. law firm that was representing the plaintiffs in a recently filed suit against the PRC.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Gipson Hoffman &amp; Pancione, the law firm representing Santa Barbara-based software maker CYBERsitter, LLC, in a $2.2 billion software piracy action filed last week against the People&#8217;s Republic of China and seven major computer manufacturers in connection with distribution of the controversial Green Dam censorware program, has come under a cyber attack directed from within China. The attack comes on the heels of widespread reports of Chinese cyber attacks against Google. Cyber attacks were initiated from within China against CYBERsitter itself last June when the Green Dam piracy was first reported in the press.</p></blockquote>
<p>The cyberattacks were in the form of emails disguised to look as though they originated from within the firm, but instead contained Trojans, which could have been used to allow the attackers to gain control of the firm&#8217;s machines.</p>
<p>Luckily for Gipson Hoffman &amp; Pancione, apparently the Chinese hackers <a href="http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/chinese-hackers-have-cybersitter-law-firm-in-crosshairs/?cs=38758">could not convincingly pull off American Lawyer email-speak</a>, and the messages were written so suspiciously that no one actually opened the Trojans.</p>
<p>Aside from Google and the above law firm, at least thirty other American commercial entities have been subject of Chinese cyberattacks. Or, to use the polite euphemism favored by the State Department, &#8220;cyber intrusions.&#8221; Cyberattack, you see, could be a dangerous term for diplomats to bandy about &#8212; it comes to close to being an accusation that China is committing the most serious breach of international law.</p>
<p>Although starting a war with China is obviously in no one&#8217;s best interest, now or most likely ever, I think I would be willing to argue that, under international law, China&#8217;s actions (assuming all allegations are true) do constitute a use of force that would authorize the U.S. and other nations who were the subject of attacks to respond in kind. China, of course, is well aware that at this point no nation would as a practical matter retaliate with force, but the Chinese cyberattacks may end up forcing an international law of cyber-relations to develop faster than would otherwise be anticipated.</p>
<p>This is true not only for issues of international law governing the use of force, but also for international trade law. Baidu, the major Chinese internet search engine , saw its stock shares rise in price in the wake of the recent Google-China conflict. Baidu had already was the market leader, but was beginning to feel the squeeze from competition with Google &#8212; and Baidu will, undoubtedly, continue to benefit if the Google pull-out really does occur.  It&#8217;s not hard to see where the potential for a national treatment violation lies in that, <a href="http://worldtradelaw.typepad.com/ielpblog/2010/01/google-china-and-the-wto.html">and it looks like Google&#8217;s lawyers have already been considering the possibility</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>According to lawyers, the US could argue that Beijing’s censorship in effect discriminated against foreign services such as Google, contrary to its commitments under the General Agreement on Trade in Services (Gats).</p>
<p>“If China imposes harsher web filtering restrictions on Google than on local search engines, such as Baidu, Google may have a WTO discrimination claim,” said David Spooner, a former assistant secretary of commerce, now at the law firm Squire Sanders &amp; Dempsey.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting argument. But if their attorneys keep that kind of talk up, Squires Sanders &amp; Dempsey may want to start being careful about opening any email attachments that come their way.</p>
<p>-Susan</p>
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		<title>Legal Unemployment, Worldwide</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Susan Simpson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In thirty years, China has gone from having six law schools to having 634. Predictably, this is not entirely good news for the graduates of those schools, as law is now the hardest profession to find employment in: Law has topped the list of the 10 most difficult professions to land a job in the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=viewfromll2.com&amp;blog=9550428&amp;post=1018&amp;subd=viewfromll2&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In thirty years, China has gone from having six law schools to having 634. Predictably, this is not entirely good news for the graduates of those schools, <a href="http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/metro/2010-01/05/content_9265492.htm">as law is now the hardest profession to find employment in:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Law has topped the list of the 10 most difficult professions to land a job in the country for two consecutive years, taking the No 1 slot in 2008 and No 2 in 2007, according to a joint study released in June 2009 by China&#8217;s Academy of Social Science and Beijing-based consulting company Mycos Institute.</p></blockquote>
<p>However, I found this even more curious:</p>
<blockquote><p>The other majors [that are difficult professions to find employment in] include computer science, English, international economics and trade, business administration, clinical medicine, Chinese literature, art design, electronic engineering and accounting.</p></blockquote>
<p>To be fair, &#8216;Chinese literature&#8217; and &#8216;art design&#8217; might be the Chinese equivalent of an American liberal arts degree, the kind everyone derides as being not good for much in the real world. But clinical medicine? Engineering? Accounting? Business administration? These are the sort of majors that sensible, job-oriented students take that are, in the U.S., supposed to leave graduates happily having their pick of employment, while their lowly English lit classmates are waiting tables.</p>
<p>It suggests to me, anyway, that there is nothing particularly unique about the plight of law grads in China,  but that the market for highly educated labor in general is somewhat stunted.</p>
<p>Still, this could very much be a hindrance to China&#8217;s long-term development.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Law graduates have the most difficulty in job hunting, which means the supply has exceeded the demand,&#8221; Wang said.</p>
<p>&#8220;If there is no adjustment in place soon, it is not good for the development of law in the long run.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Unlike the U.S. &#8212; which, I might reluctantly concede, may simply have an overabundance of lawyers in general &#8212; China has come no where near to meeting the potential demand for lawyers, but rather the legal infrastructure that would support all those theoretical legal jobs has yet to materialize. The creation of a political climate that respects the rule of law necessarily requires the presence of lawyers, however. China&#8217;s fledgling legal system is characterized more by the rule of men, but there is, at least in theory, a legal system in place. A healthy bar that continuously engage in litigation to resolve disputes may or may not eventually result in a robust Chinese legal system, but nothing else has a chance of doing so.</p>
<p>In other law school related news from China, U.S. law grads may eventually get some competition from China, if the <a href="http://www.stl.szpku.edu.cn/en/">Peking University&#8217;s School of Transnational Law</a> succeeds in its plan of becoming <a href="http://transnationallawblog.typepad.com/transnational_law_blog/2009/08/transnational-law-school.html">the first non-American school to be accredited by the ABA</a>.</p>
<p>-Susan</p>
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		<title>China Appealing . . . On Public Morals Grounds</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Williams</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[China is appealing the recent WTO decision that came down against them recently, ruling that they can&#8217;t force U.S. media producers to go through Chinese state-run enterprises.   Interesting, China is citing the &#8220;public morals&#8221; exception that has only been cited in one other case: Antigua&#8217;s claim against the U.S.&#8217;s disallowance of online gambling.  It was [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=viewfromll2.com&amp;blog=9550428&amp;post=219&amp;subd=viewfromll2&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is appealing the recent WTO decision that came down against them recently, ruling that they can&#8217;t force U.S. media producers to go through Chinese state-run enterprises.   Interesting, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125363796886531247.html" target="_blank">China is citing the &#8220;public morals&#8221; exception</a> that has only been cited in one other case: Antigua&#8217;s claim against the U.S.&#8217;s disallowance of online gambling.  It was a tough defense for the United States; and it&#8217;s sure to be a tough one for China as well. </p>
<p>(I&#8217;m primarily interested in this defense because the <em>U.S.&#8211;Gambling </em>case spurred by <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1385770" target="_blank">student note</a>. So, humor me.)</p>
<p>-Michael</p>
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