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		<title>By: Techowiz</title>
		<link>http://viewfromll2.com/2009/11/05/the-ade651-bomb-detector-fraud-and-the-potential-for-an-alien-tort-statute-claim/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Techowiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Susan,

First note the change of email for your personal info only.
Secondly, I have updated my blog with some pictures of my friend and yours, Gary Bolton. Also I have questioned why the police have still not arrested him. Hope this finds you well, stay in touch,
regards
Techowiz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susan,</p>
<p>First note the change of email for your personal info only.<br />
Secondly, I have updated my blog with some pictures of my friend and yours, Gary Bolton. Also I have questioned why the police have still not arrested him. Hope this finds you well, stay in touch,<br />
regards<br />
Techowiz</p>
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		<title>By: diohuni</title>
		<link>http://viewfromll2.com/2009/11/05/the-ade651-bomb-detector-fraud-and-the-potential-for-an-alien-tort-statute-claim/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[diohuni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please sign the petition here:

http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-action-and-justice-in-fake-explosive-detectors-scandal

and if interested in the history, please see here

http://www.scribd.com/full/51676711?access_key=key-11r7th4aq0zgvhd6q2b4

HISTORY

http://www.scribd.com/full/51703923?access_key=key-231darif3gwjtk07acrp

FED ACCOUNTING

http://www.scribd.com/full/51676708?access_key=key-119dzmlzr6r8yaww7fid

PICTURE GALLERY

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51719307

ROGUES GALLERY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please sign the petition here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-action-and-justice-in-fake-explosive-detectors-scandal" rel="nofollow">http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-action-and-justice-in-fake-explosive-detectors-scandal</a></p>
<p>and if interested in the history, please see here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/full/51676711?access_key=key-11r7th4aq0zgvhd6q2b4" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/full/51676711?access_key=key-11r7th4aq0zgvhd6q2b4</a></p>
<p>HISTORY</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/full/51703923?access_key=key-231darif3gwjtk07acrp" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/full/51703923?access_key=key-231darif3gwjtk07acrp</a></p>
<p>FED ACCOUNTING</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/full/51676708?access_key=key-119dzmlzr6r8yaww7fid" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/full/51676708?access_key=key-119dzmlzr6r8yaww7fid</a></p>
<p>PICTURE GALLERY</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/51719307" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/51719307</a></p>
<p>ROGUES GALLERY</p>
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		<title>By: diohuni</title>
		<link>http://viewfromll2.com/2009/11/05/the-ade651-bomb-detector-fraud-and-the-potential-for-an-alien-tort-statute-claim/#comment-988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[diohuni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/uk-iraq-britain-explosives-idUKTRE71G3H120110217

the man who said:

“Whether it’s magic or scientific, what I care about is it detects bombs,” said Maj. Gen. Jehad al-Jabiri, head of the Ministry of the Interior’s General Directorate for Combating Explosives.

“I don’t care about Sandia or the Department of Justice or any of them,” General Jabiri said. “I know more about this issue than the Americans do. In fact, I know more about bombs than anyone in the world.”

More to follow!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/uk-iraq-britain-explosives-idUKTRE71G3H120110217" rel="nofollow">http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/uk-iraq-britain-explosives-idUKTRE71G3H120110217</a></p>
<p>the man who said:</p>
<p>“Whether it’s magic or scientific, what I care about is it detects bombs,” said Maj. Gen. Jehad al-Jabiri, head of the Ministry of the Interior’s General Directorate for Combating Explosives.</p>
<p>“I don’t care about Sandia or the Department of Justice or any of them,” General Jabiri said. “I know more about this issue than the Americans do. In fact, I know more about bombs than anyone in the world.”</p>
<p>More to follow!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dubious Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dubious Dick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Susan,

Like the rest of us I expect you were delighted to see the latest Newsnight investigation. Seems like the full story is now emerging. We warned the Defence Select Committee and the MOD back in early 2009 about all this. Seems the collaboration of REME was too embarassing and so they waffled a lot. Now it is public knowledge hopefully the pressure of the MPs will get McCormick, Bolton and Vollmar behind bars and their ill gotten gains confiscated!!

Added a link to my blog at 

http://ade651gt200scamfraud.blogspot.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susan,</p>
<p>Like the rest of us I expect you were delighted to see the latest Newsnight investigation. Seems like the full story is now emerging. We warned the Defence Select Committee and the MOD back in early 2009 about all this. Seems the collaboration of REME was too embarassing and so they waffled a lot. Now it is public knowledge hopefully the pressure of the MPs will get McCormick, Bolton and Vollmar behind bars and their ill gotten gains confiscated!!</p>
<p>Added a link to my blog at </p>
<p><a href="http://ade651gt200scamfraud.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ade651gt200scamfraud.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Susan Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Simpson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dubious Dick -- my asterisked comment was a bit out of context here, so I probably should fix that up, but it definitely was not criticism about using you as a source. More the opposite, really. I&#039;ve made a habit of noting the instances where I&#039;ve found MSM publications using blogs and forums for sources for their stories; basically just snarky commentary on how the idea that blogs and other non-traditional news sources &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ojr.org/ojr/stories/070301niles/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;are somehow &quot;parasitical&quot; on big media&lt;/a&gt; is bass ackwards, as big media just as often gets their information from non-mainstream sources.

And I&#039;m happy to give credit wherever due, if you want to give me a link to chuck up there. I can&#039;t really remember at this point, but I&#039;m pretty sure I just lifted the quote from a comment McCormick made somewhere on the intertubes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dubious Dick &#8212; my asterisked comment was a bit out of context here, so I probably should fix that up, but it definitely was not criticism about using you as a source. More the opposite, really. I&#8217;ve made a habit of noting the instances where I&#8217;ve found MSM publications using blogs and forums for sources for their stories; basically just snarky commentary on how the idea that blogs and other non-traditional news sources <a href="http://www.ojr.org/ojr/stories/070301niles/" rel="nofollow">are somehow &#8220;parasitical&#8221; on big media</a> is bass ackwards, as big media just as often gets their information from non-mainstream sources.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m happy to give credit wherever due, if you want to give me a link to chuck up there. I can&#8217;t really remember at this point, but I&#8217;m pretty sure I just lifted the quote from a comment McCormick made somewhere on the intertubes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dubious Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dubious Dick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Susan and readers,

Just seen your piece. Delighted you have covered this issue on a number of occasions and got a good google rank for the issue.

just to clear up. Don&#039;t think I was a random internet commentator, as in I kicked off the campaign on UKSkeptics ( I  believe the first real effort in the UK, following coverage I saw on JREF site. as result, I was contacted by a nuber of others who had useful and direct information. I had written to the MOD, Defence Select Commitee, and others regarding the issue, long before the NYT and BBC work up to the story.

Since then, others, notably Techowiz, have picked up the baton and done a great deal towards getting the sqalid trade shit down, at least in the UK.

I suspect Rod contacted me, as other journalists have contacted other campaigners, because it was clear we had some of the history and details down from our own research. I would say that was a sensible way, at least as any, to shortcut your investigations.

I am not here to defend myself, but felt that your asterisk comment needed a response. also, as it happens, you use some of my original research in your piece (acknowledgement please!) i.e. I tricked McCormick by looking up some physics and asking if it worked on coulombs law. He replied it was more like Gauss&#039;s (or the other way around - it was sometime ago. This again highlighted that he had not one clue what he was talking about.

O.K. be great if you could publish asking why no prosecutions against McCormick, Bolton yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Susan and readers,</p>
<p>Just seen your piece. Delighted you have covered this issue on a number of occasions and got a good google rank for the issue.</p>
<p>just to clear up. Don&#8217;t think I was a random internet commentator, as in I kicked off the campaign on UKSkeptics ( I  believe the first real effort in the UK, following coverage I saw on JREF site. as result, I was contacted by a nuber of others who had useful and direct information. I had written to the MOD, Defence Select Commitee, and others regarding the issue, long before the NYT and BBC work up to the story.</p>
<p>Since then, others, notably Techowiz, have picked up the baton and done a great deal towards getting the sqalid trade shit down, at least in the UK.</p>
<p>I suspect Rod contacted me, as other journalists have contacted other campaigners, because it was clear we had some of the history and details down from our own research. I would say that was a sensible way, at least as any, to shortcut your investigations.</p>
<p>I am not here to defend myself, but felt that your asterisk comment needed a response. also, as it happens, you use some of my original research in your piece (acknowledgement please!) i.e. I tricked McCormick by looking up some physics and asking if it worked on coulombs law. He replied it was more like Gauss&#8217;s (or the other way around &#8211; it was sometime ago. This again highlighted that he had not one clue what he was talking about.</p>
<p>O.K. be great if you could publish asking why no prosecutions against McCormick, Bolton yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Techowiz</title>
		<link>http://viewfromll2.com/2009/11/05/the-ade651-bomb-detector-fraud-and-the-potential-for-an-alien-tort-statute-claim/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Techowiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 23:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Susan,

It would appear that your site has  now reached page 1 status. Now is the time to put forward your concerns regarding the Gt200 having UN approved status. I have sent several emails and letters to the UN regarding their approval and use of the the GT200 and ADE651 but todate without result, I have also passed it to the BBC newsnight team to see if they can move it forward.
To keep this issue in the public eye is not an easy matter but there is a lot of us that try our best.
very best regards
Techowiz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susan,</p>
<p>It would appear that your site has  now reached page 1 status. Now is the time to put forward your concerns regarding the Gt200 having UN approved status. I have sent several emails and letters to the UN regarding their approval and use of the the GT200 and ADE651 but todate without result, I have also passed it to the BBC newsnight team to see if they can move it forward.<br />
To keep this issue in the public eye is not an easy matter but there is a lot of us that try our best.<br />
very best regards<br />
Techowiz</p>
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		<title>By: Techowiz</title>
		<link>http://viewfromll2.com/2009/11/05/the-ade651-bomb-detector-fraud-and-the-potential-for-an-alien-tort-statute-claim/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Techowiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Susan,

Just to cheer up your day, the UK police have finally arrested The fraudster Gary Bolton for his ridiculous GT200, check out the link for the story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10269170.stm

Don&#039;t suppose they will be wasting your time with any more posts in the near future!
regards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susan,</p>
<p>Just to cheer up your day, the UK police have finally arrested The fraudster Gary Bolton for his ridiculous GT200, check out the link for the story:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10269170.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10269170.stm</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t suppose they will be wasting your time with any more posts in the near future!<br />
regards</p>
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		<title>By: Police Raids Conducted on Global Technical, Grosvenor, and Scandec &#8212; Will the Magic Bomb Wands Finally Be Stopped For Good? &#171; The View From LL2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Police Raids Conducted on Global Technical, Grosvenor, and Scandec &#8212; Will the Magic Bomb Wands Finally Be Stopped For Good? &#171; The View From LL2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] going on to explain why so many foreign states have actually bought these useless devices, it&#8217;s been pretty obvious from the start that that&#8217;s what has been going [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] going on to explain why so many foreign states have actually bought these useless devices, it&#8217;s been pretty obvious from the start that that&#8217;s what has been going [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Simpson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I discussed in the post &quot;Magic Bomb Wands, Corporate Liability, and the Alien Tort Statute,&quot; which is linked to above, the rampant bribery going on in regards to bomb detector procurement may be particularly significant, at least in the context of ATS litigation. The bribes show a level of state involvement that could potentially make McCormick and Bolton liable not just domestically for fraud, but also under international law.

Depending on how the deals are actually structured, the bribes and cooperation between ATSC/Global Technical and foreign governments who purchase the devices just might amount to a joint venture, which would put them in similar standing as a state actor.

Unfortunately, a fair amount of the google traffic that gets to this page &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; reference &quot;stupid Iraqis&quot; and the like, which is unfair and untrue. True, a few do believe the devices work, but then again, these things were sold in the States for decades too. And the primary reason these things are selling like hotcakes is not because of any belief in their efficacy, but rather the corruption and bribes that make them a rather lucrative product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I discussed in the post &#8220;Magic Bomb Wands, Corporate Liability, and the Alien Tort Statute,&#8221; which is linked to above, the rampant bribery going on in regards to bomb detector procurement may be particularly significant, at least in the context of ATS litigation. The bribes show a level of state involvement that could potentially make McCormick and Bolton liable not just domestically for fraud, but also under international law.</p>
<p>Depending on how the deals are actually structured, the bribes and cooperation between ATSC/Global Technical and foreign governments who purchase the devices just might amount to a joint venture, which would put them in similar standing as a state actor.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, a fair amount of the google traffic that gets to this page <i>does</i> reference &#8220;stupid Iraqis&#8221; and the like, which is unfair and untrue. True, a few do believe the devices work, but then again, these things were sold in the States for decades too. And the primary reason these things are selling like hotcakes is not because of any belief in their efficacy, but rather the corruption and bribes that make them a rather lucrative product.</p>
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